@Curi_Christian The thing is for me is that science is not settled. Science has to jump through hoops to explain when they observe - inflation to get round the size of the universe and lack of red shift - dark matter to explain it’s lack of observable mass - Big Bang versus string theory, etc.

@Curi_Christian I think it’s a stretch to say that Genesis 1 is figurative though, when consensus is that it was historical narrative, and in that style.

@Curi_Christian I actually watched both… 😀 My personal view is that God baked these patterns into history because they speak to perfection. He created everything, including geometry, maths, the laws of nature and physics, all which embody perfection. God would never create something randomly!

@Curi_Christian I’ve not studied Joshua in detail, but I thought Miller and Soden had it right when they quote David Howard as saying the verse about the sun standing still was figurative, and relating to the perception that the day was never going to end during the long battle.

@Curi_Christian You did, that was what switched me on to Miller and Soden’s book. I thought it was a really interesting video. It did teach me some stuff I hadn’t come across before. I think that stuff is compatible with a literalist view.

@Curi_Christian No, why? The Bible states there is a thing called natural revelation as well.

Would you mind if I ask where you’re going with the questions?

I found it quite challenging going through Miller and Soden’s argument and was not convinced. I’d be interested to discuss specifics.

@Curi_Christian It was established by observation and the application of maths in the 15th Century.

@Curi_Christian The sun moves from the perspective of someone viewing it on earth. It rises in the East and sets in the West. When the sun stood for Joshua, he meant it was a long day. The sun never seemed to set. We understand that from context.

@Curi_Christian The creation story goes much deeper than to the question of observational perspective.

@Curi_Christian What does the movement of the sun mean in relation to Genesis 1?

@StoneKamino @pinkfloyd Live at Pompeii is just amazing. All the way through. But especially Set the Controls and Saucerful… 🤯🫠🤤

We’d not been able to get out as a family for a long while, but we did today, and it was good. God’s beauty on display in all it’s golden glory.

@ReneeLeonardKe1 @CSLCHSnMore My wife and I often joke that we are still waiting for the ‘better’ bit. Maybe next year! #HealthyFaithChat

@Stuartall1977 Thank you, I do appreciate it. It is very sad to see how the CofE has turned. They have no appreciation that the dilution of the Gospel and biblical principles is the cause of much of their decline. Great damage is being done to communities and the buildings they are selling too.

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat t.co/lN5aLqDgb…

@joebennett1988 @CSLCHSnMore This!

#HealthyFaithChat

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat A8. Absolute loyalty coupled with gracious honesty.

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat A7 It’s interesting that the crown sits above the head. The head being the site of reason and authority. It shows how important a wife with Godly, or noble character is.

How could that be sexist!

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat A6 It takes self-discipline to be a good husband and father. I know I have my moments when I’m short on patience or long on judgement but I know without a conscious effort I would be much worse. My kids have taught me the difference between a battle and a war!

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat A5 Faithfulness was our default setting. Is, was and will be. No matter what trials we go through, that is bedrock.

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat A3 So much hurt. A breakdown in commitment, loyalty, increase in children living with the fallout well into adulthood. Supremacy of the self, and all that it brings. There is a mental-health tsunami out there and no-one puts two and two together…

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat A2. At times it has felt like us against the world. A husband’s first loyalty must be to his wife, and then his children. That demands choices be made sometimes. Extended families can be challenging! But we have been made stronger as a result.

@Stuartall1977 Bristol has quite a lot of choice, from evangelical biblical fellowship, Calvary Chapel, all the way through to charismatic, NAR and Word of Faith 🧐

@Stuartall1977 At the moment I dont… I was raised CofE but was only truly saved a couple of years ago. Family circumstances (my wife’s health) mean I’m unable to make corporate worship at the moment. I hope this will change because I feel I need face to face fellowship.

@CSLCHSnMore #HealthyFaithChat A1 Between 1 man and 1 woman. With the husband the head, as Christ is to his Bride, the Church. Both in the image of God, equal before Hi, though with different roles. Not just a partnership, but one flesh.