@AndrewS76825037 Which way do you fall on the topic Andrew? My own view is quite simple, and that salvation is by Faith alone. We are baptised by the Holy Spirit, not by water. Water is symbolic of the Spirit.

@Carpet16100850 More from me further down that thread. I don’t believe it’s necessary, but I understand why some might want to do it as a public demonstration of rebirth. We are baptised in the Holy Spirit.

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Uh oh, I’ve got into an argument with someone about the necessity of baptism for salvation.

@patrice_pringle @realdanieltitus Jesus' sacrifice washes away the sins of those who believe. Apart from Faith, nothing we do, whether it is being baptised or anything else, has anything to do with our salvation.

@patrice_pringle @realdanieltitus Water is symbolic of the washing and regeneration of the Spirit, Tit. 3:5. 1 Co. 6:11 says ‘you are washed’. The Spirit is compared to water in Jn 7:38-39 and Isa. 44:3. It also links back to Genesis 1:20 where the fruits of heaven were born of water.

@patrice_pringle @realdanieltitus I see that, clearly. But baptism was not a condition of salvation. It followed salvation, and after the washing of their wounds.

@CDGingrich You find some wonderful pictures, thank you.

@realdanieltitus @patrice_pringle Acts 16:30–33. Baptism follows salvation. In verse 31 Paul says you will be saved if you believe in the Lord Jesus. He doesn’t say ‘believe in the Lord Jesus and be baptised, and you will be saved’. t.co/AON2ub02p…

@realdanieltitus @patrice_pringle We are saved by Faith alone.

For some reason this is controversial, but water baptism is not necessary for salvation. As such I wouldn’t worry about exactly how it is done. It is a demonstration of our death and resurrection in Christ. It is a Fruit of our Salvation, not cause.

Christ rose from the dead on the day of the Festival of Firstfruits. By His death and resurrection, by His substitutionary sacrifice, He took away our reproach. t.co/SZjaCdHfO…

Christ is the firstfruit of the risen (1 Corinthians 15:20).

In Leviticus 23:10 God tells Israel that they are to bring the firstfruits of their first Harvest of the promised land to Him. No grain was sown in the desert and the manna stopped with the firstfruits. t.co/1r2UNjT4Y…

@realdanieltitus @OminousMoment I came here to say 4! Revelation is the kicker!

Spotify’s AI curated playlists are usually surprisingly well done. This time it gets a 10 for effort but a 3 for flow! At least there’s no Hillsong or Bethel (yet). t.co/qvIIzEWNn…

How do these survive the affects of erosion, if they have been around for 550 million years? They are truly beautiful but the dating is clearly bunk. twitter.com/jonslater37/st…

@realdanieltitus t.co/Vnl6cHblC…

I asked labs.openai.com for a painting of Heaven in the style of Hieronymous Bosch. This is what it gave me. t.co/ZokcE0aXW…

@GeorgeEWade More alert, and playful! She’s only 6 months old, and pretty small in fact, though it’s not obvious in the picture. Her mum was small compared with our other cats, who are regular size orientals. It was her pointy nose, whiskers and grey colour that got her the name mouse 😁

@AuthorJ_Fowler Haha! Good try, but unfortunately not 😁 Mouse is the little grey one with a pointy face, and Wolfie is the white one (with red bits). His posh name is Wulfric which was some kind of ironic nod to a fearsome Viking heritage. The name came before his soft personality was evident!

Mouse and Wolfie. Can you tell which is which? t.co/teyEfh1TQ…

@Carpet16100850 Modern minds seem to forget the miracle that we are here at all. Once you accept that, accepting other miracles, in particular the never to be repeated event of Christ’s Ressurection, isn’t such a stretch. It only had to happen once.

@EhzNow Yes, only God can judge, and I personally refrain from making judgments about someone else’s heart for that reason.

My question came from a desire to rationalise the relationship between salvation by faith alone, and evidence of changed heart, seen in many Reformed commentaries.

@momisnowtweetin @CSLCHSnMore In a nutshell this has to be the strongest single argument for animals in Heaven. There are many others. I’ll definitely read the book you mention, David as I’m keen to find biblical truth for what is a ‘naturally obvious’ state regarding the beauty of nature found in Heaven.

John Martin - Pandemonium, c. 1825 t.co/sCrG4L01Q…

If someone shows an unrepentant life, with no fruits of regeneration, but professes faith in Jesus' death, resurrection and saving grace, are they saved?

Matthew 7:19-20 says no. ‘I never knew you’.

Am I missing anything?

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